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will be asked again to raise the debt ceiling. most republicans will oppose that acting for definite spending cuts before more borrowing. does the president care? >> the only viable option here is congress to fulfill -- that congress fulfills its responsibility and ensures that the united states of america pays its bills as it has always paid its bills through the its history. >> bill: just shut up and pay. all right? don't be asking for anything, just pay. it's mr. obama's way or the highway. again, he could use an executive order to ignore the debt ceiling and i will not be surprised if he does. so, what we have here is not a failure to communicate as they once said in the movie cool hand lou. but a president who believes he can do what he wants to do with little accountability. he has already signed executive order changing immigration rules. that was done in the middle of the night. few even know about it if this continues there will be a constitutional crisis in america. unfortunately we the people are slow to understand what's actually happening here. there is no collaboration going non
in the gun control issue and probably in the debt ceiling issue, doesn't that smack of totalitarianism? i'm not going to go with the checks and balances that the founding fathers put into place. i'm going to sign my name and you're gonna do it. >> well, we still have checks and balances. we still have the judiciary. any executive order can be challenged in court. the truth is that the courts have generally upheld executive orders finding them perfectly consistent with the constitution. they have done it on important issues, too. president truman used executive order to desegregate the military when congress wouldn't act. we have along history of executive orders even on constitutional issues. i don't think they violate the separation of powers. >> bill: you do see that it will wind up in court and it will be a mess and particularly on the gun issue. now, how do you see it coming down? let's take the guns first. the house is not going to go along with the president's overall view. they may make a couple of minor tweaks here and there how do you think the president is going to handle it? >>
to the debt ceiling debate. so early on in trade today, we will see more follow-through from the strong wednesday-thursday trade, but perhaps expect a little bit of profit-taking in the last hour ahead of the weekend press cycle. > > what are you seeing as far as volume, and did growth in china have anything to do with this latest rally? > > right, no, absolutely. first and foremost, china. the chinese trade data from wednesday night into thursday morning was exceptionally strong, exceeding analysts' expectations by 50%. it suggests or gives the hint that perhaps the global and domestic economies are both a little bit stronger than what some of the data is perhaps suggesting. that would be welcome news for federal reserve policymakers. your second point, volumes - volumes have been very strong at the start of the new year. even the s&p futures for example, yesterday traded over 1.6 million contracts in its heaviest volume day of the year, so, volumes are strong, and there is a lot of new money entering the market - 401(k)s, pension plans, whatever else - so look for volumes to remain el
. the dancing and talking and dancing and talk. >> karl rove blows up the republican debt ceiling ruse. americans living in poverty is at an all-time high. senator bernie sanders is here with the outrage on inequality. >>> junior seau's test results may finally push the nfl to address head injuries. we're taking a look into the findings. >>> oscar nominations were released today. but how heavy will politics weigh with the academy? >> they stay here, they will be taken. probably not alive. >> david edelstein gives us the scoop. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. another group of parents received the terrifying news today when a shooting erupted at their children's school. at the exact time vice president joe biden was meeting with groups on solutions to gun violence a gunman opened fire at a high school in bakersfield, california about 120 miles northwest of los angeles. police say a 16-year-old shooter was armed with a shotgun. at least two people were shot, including one student who was in critical condition. there is usually an armed police officer at t
this debt ceiling debate to have? >> we're quite worried about it. we hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot. the good thing is the market saw in december even though there was a lot of fighting, ultimately they did the right thing so maybe it doesn't have to sell off as much before. >> i'm sorry, what does that mean? shoot themselves in the foot? does that mean they should do the right thing and stop borrowing 1 trillion a year. >> michael, you're right. we already shot ourselves in the foot. >> shooting ourselves in the foot would be coming up with a deal before the deadline, not a week after the deadline after they scare the bejabers out of everybo everybody. >> in 2011 they raised the debt ceiling and promised to cut $1.2 trillion. guess what? they punted on that one. now they are one sequestration in arrears. they owe us two and we're not getting any. that's not shooting ourselves in the foot. it's shooting our children in the head. >> i would argue that they did the -- i would argue they absolutely did not do the right thing. they probably should have let things lie and sta
what does he think about the gun control debate, the debt ceiling. what does he think about the republican party, the democratic party? does he intend on running in 2016? all of that plus his thoughts on the miss alabama controversy and bill maher. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. other side effects include dr
and he said that he's not going to allow the debt ceiling debate to be died to spending cuts which we desperately needs. he obviously -- he wants a fight. what do you make of the strategy that he's employed. >> i think what's happened to him is he feels that by winning a second term, with a slight addition of democrats in the house and the senate he now is, you know, king of the the world to quote an oscar winner of bygone days. and you noticed in these lists, look at the list of the major appointees, starting with brennan and hagel and these are nobody of independent stature. it's not like the first term where he had a clinton, where he had a gates, where he had people who could be a team of rivals. this is a team of essential, you know, fact totems. he wants to rule and he wants to govern and he will not let anybody stand in his way and i think that's what he's saying and he will take on any fight in order to get his people. he's announcing he wants to govern alone. >> sean: will they get confirmed? >> all of them, yes. i think in the case of hagel, i say the odds he gets a yes vote
, if you think a $1 trillion coin is the only far-fetched way of getting ash the debt ceiling, you understand estimate the creativity of the american progressives. and brett ehrlich was actually a film critic we're going to run down his oscar favors. it's a friday night n "the war room," and we will be right back. ♪ [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? >> i think it's brilliant. (vo) first, news and analysis with a washington perspective from an emmy winning insider. >> i know this stuff, and i love it. (vo) followed by humor and politics with a west coast edge. bill press and stephanie miller. >> what a way to start the day. ♪ >> jennifer: the national rifle association claims that 100,000 people have joined the nra since the nowtown school shooting. of course we don't know how many people dropped their membership following the tragedy and the nra's con trover shall comments afterwards. but 400,000 people joined mayo
. you want to see the cliff? the debt ceiling. right? the debt ceiling -- liz: again? >> next month is starts. liz: what's that do -- >> the republicans are not going to give. they are going to say i gave you tax hikes. i want to see spending cuts. when obama says i'm not giving you spending cuts without more tax hikes, you will see the republicans cross their arms and say, i'm not playing. we're going off that cliff. liz: what is the trade if that is, indeed, the scenario? >> sell long term treasuries. they are a bad deal. i don't know if you saw these reports on the coin? have you seen that? think about it. imagine if the government printed a trillion dollars and stuck it in the treasury and said, oh, there's a trillion less. that's so irrational, or a country like ours crossing arms saying we are not going to pay. that's so irrational. that means one thing, long term interest rates up; right? bond prices down. you will see the ten year note go down and done, and interest rates in the u.s. in the long term continue to jump up. liz: in november, when you were here, the best thing g
real here. >> they have to embrace it and get real, although we have the debt ceiling coming up and many people who have predicted you could see a pullback before you see things moving higher once again. >> and i agree with that. and i think that's a great opportunity to own volume telt here. it's the cheapest we've seen the vix for some time. for one reason or another, there's complacency in the market. right now, we are seeing the market continue to move higher. it's a big technical when you see the large hedge funds coming in with the high trading that catch a lot of people off guard. and they did that overnight. i think today you'll see an up session again in the s&p. >> but, jeff, do you think that these are pros putting their money in, do you think these are average individuals who have started contributing to their 401(k)s at the beginning of the year? what do you think is happening? >> i think they're seeing some remorse. some of the folks were concerned about the tax ramifications of this whole fiscal cliff situation. we see nearly a 7% move up in the s&p. so people com
a million dollar platinum coin to avoid debt ceiling drama has gained political momentum. what started as a whim in 2010 got more attention a year later. now has left leaning noble prize winning columnist paul krugman if the debt ceiling isn't avoided, mint the darn coin. gerald nadler is behind it not to mention a petition on the white house website with thousands of signatures in support. speaking of the white house.... >> would you roll it out? >> you can speculate a lot of things. >> it's in the air, a high floater. treasury department decides not to field it, but why is this being discussed more seriously now? analysts say frustration and fatigue in washington. >> an increased search for ways out of this problem, especially by democrats. i think that is how some of them hit on this idea about the coin. >> we've explained how it would work. >> treasury can mint it and print one trillion dollars. the president can order that coin to be deposited at the federal reserve. and real buzz over all of this is possibility, humorous or not, who would be on the coin, obama and boin have been
as the government doesn't screw it up. well, we do have the debt ceiling debate in about a month. when you say screw it up. >> that's what i mean. >> you mean a fight? >> a big fight. >> that's what i mean. the last thing that we need is we don't need the government in there trying to kill sentiment. we -- we absolutely need sending cuts. i saw you almost fell out of your chair when one of the previous guests said we don't have a spending problem in this country. we certainly need to get more fiscal restraint, but we cannot have the government holding sentiment hostage, and that really is an incredibly negative force that cannot happen this year if we're looking to have the market move forward. >> dan, let me bring you into the conversation here, the chief executive officer here. how are you allocating capital? >> doing it stock by stock. we think the market is on pretty stable ground right here, though when seagulls get together it's called a flock but when bad boons get together it's called a bad congress so that's something to worry about when you get closer to the next phase of the fiscal cliff
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happened with the debt ceiling. there we go, piqu why. hopefully we've sorted you out. i want to get your view on the nikkei up at fresh five-year highs as we go into the new year. we have to get into discussions about the debt ceiling. >> well, i think the debt ceiling will cause some enhanced volatility from the february the 10th to march the 1st. we're likely to get a midnight solution on february the 28th. but the point is that i think the most difficult aspect of the negotiations was the issue of a tax increase. the republicans hadn't vote -- no republican congressman had voted for a tax increase in three years. 85 house of representatives members and the majority of the republican senators bothed in favor. so i would say that this suggests that the -- on fiscal issues is now a thing of the past. i mean, it's saying something quite strong, but i think we are much more likely to get a reasonable solution on march the 1st than seems likely until the middle of january the 1st this year. we're likely to get that solution. there will be a period of volatility for about 20 days in february
the immediate task of negotiating with republicans on raising the national debt ceiling, and agreeing on major spending cuts. some republicans have complained that lew has been unyielding in past negotiations. but the president said today: >> over the years he's built a reputation as a master of policy who can work with members of both parties and forge principled compromises. >> brown: the announcement came a day after labor secretary hilda solis announced she's stepping down after four years on the job. solis was the first hispanic woman to serve in a top cabinet position. and, she's the latest of several high-profile women to depart, including secretary of state hillary clinton and lisa jackson, administrator of the environmental protection agency. along with the president's earlier nominations-- for state, the pentagon and the c.i.a.-- that's raised questions about a loss of diversity in the cabinet. but yesterday, white house spokesman jay carney said the president's record on diversity should speak for itself. >> i mean, the increase in the representation of women in senior positions is
the - presiient "please don't senn jack lew" during the fragile debt ceiling neggtiations of 20111."it was unbelievabbe," boehner said. "at onn point i told the president, keep him out of here. i don't need somebody who just knows how to say no." with the lew announceeent, all of the president's top picks, state, briefing this week, reporters - have peppered press secretary observersshave dubbed "obama's white ggy problem". these storris are in eaction to a couple offappointmenns. i think it would be useful to &pwait and make judgments about this issue afferrthe preeident has made the totality of appointments that he will make in the ttansition to the seconddterm of obama's sixteen cabinnt positions, only two services secretary kaahleen secretary janet napolitanoo ty thougghlabor and commerce are open and more will likely can catch fire, as we saw durrng the presidential &pcammaign. i wenttto a number of women's groups and said, &p"can you help us find folks," and they rought us whole binders full of women. the this becoming áobama'sá but there are other issues east room, assthe pr
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. president obama taps a new warrior for the debt ceiling fight. he chooses jacob lew to be the 76th u.s. secretary of the treasury. >> tom: i'm tom hudson. uncle sam wants to make sure you can afford that home loan before you buy. new rules to protect consumers from bad mortgage lenders are on their way. >> susie: and, we look at whether new year's resolutions, to lose weight, can pump up your portfolio. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! >> susie: president obama named today a "low key" washington hand as his new secretary of the treasury. jacob lew is being called a man who combines tough bargaining with deep economic understanding and a commitment to protecting the safety net for the poor and the elderly. some republicans have promised to oppose lew's nomination, but most say they are reserving judgment. darren gersh has more on this pivotal player. >> reporter: the president introduced his pick for treasury secretary as a man who gets tough jobs done. and one of those jobs will be protecting programs the president supports. >> as the son of a polish immigrant, as a man of
. will it be the postponement or the sequestration cuts? will be the debt ceiling which might come at the very same moment? >> as they stumble around, there is an evil force that nobody seems to want to understand but the money guys. that is the markets will get tired of all the fun and games and all the funny loose talks. neil: they haven't gotten tired of it yet. >> the real point is that that kind of stuff, it can happen in two years and two months or two days, and that is when the markets headed. inflation will go up, interest rates will go up, and we won't disappear. but we won't be number one. and then they will say, who did this? and they will look around and find a jerk in their district would not cut a nickel or raise the tax and they said, you led us to this and url. that's your only hope for democracy right now. neil: we are still waiting and hoping. he met cross your fingers. i know you will. >> okay, pal, take care. [laughter] neil: you are the best. alan simpson. we will leave it at that. coming up next, the health care law. workers are feeling jerked around. one worker is here to explain ne
have always voted to raise the debt ceiling. in congress, those of us in the congress, granted him his wish. we never tried to deny him the ability to pay our bills. i want to do it now because this congress, at least this house of representatives would like to see is the default on our obligations. that is why i think the president ought to do it himself. if congress refuses to do so. neil: i don't know about you, you are in this camp, many of your colleagues when president bush was around, they were on the brink a number of times arguing about what he was doing. bringing us ultimately to default. isn't the issue what brings us to this point time and again? fifty some odd time since world war ii? if the underlying spending. it seems like you guys are going through hoops to avoid the underlying problem. and that problem is spending. >> spending may be a problem. but what do we spend the money on? we spend this money to fund two wars that we never paid for. we have never knock on the war and made sacrifices tax wise or otherwise to pay for it the one what about the $5 trillion that we s
the debt ceiling, a continuing resolution. at the end of march, the year is half over. did you have sequestration mandated. those are all intertwined. they represent different points from which you can have a conversation about spending. i actually think there is less pressure short-term from the budget year to year. it is the long-term entitlement programs. at the discretion of the congress on an annual basis, maybe only 40% of the budget they control. much of it is locked in and on a trajectory that ends badly at some 0.30 or 40 years. that objective statement comes from the president's own appointees. the presidents in both parties of had it trustees that say, this will not work long term. i think the logical approach will be to think, how can you now make some of these changes. in the 1980's they adjusted social security and medicare it is a little bit. those are phased in over a long period of time. host: what do you think about the idea of using the debt ceiling as a starting point to talk about budgets and spending? guest: there is no question that congress is in a brittle de
debates and votes you're talking have to do with fiscal issues taking place, whether it's debt ceiling, whether it's government spending and things like that. are you willing to see cuts in government spending? are you willing to see reforms in medicare and social security that deal with parts of this debt problem the country has? >> well, i'll tell you. i've always been an advocate for responsible spending. i think government needs to be delivering services for people in a cost effective way. and now we have not only an opportunity, but an obligation to do that. find ways to spend smarter. that's what i stood for in the state legislature, drill down into budgets, find ways to more effectively deliver for people. so that is absolutely what i'm committed to doing. you know, in my position, in addition to working on the task force on gun violence in the house, i'm also on transportation and infrastructure. and science. and those are two great persons to look for how we lay the foundation for economic growth, for jobs in our communities. and that is going to have to be key part of this ba
is to confront congressional leaders again over raising the borrowing limit called the debt ceiling. i'll have more headlines next hour. here is a check on markets. >>> the race is under way to win the olympic honor. tokyo's governor made his pitch no london. he addressed more than 100 foreign journalists. >> i have a big passion for sports to come to london for the games. >> it's clear that tokyo's new olympic stadium will be a great venue perhaps even one of the world's greatest. >> committee members said the 2020 games in tokyo would be a dynamic event that could take place in one of the world's safest and most dynamic cities. tokyo lost out on the 2016 games to rio de the tokyo news team held a meeting there. >> compared to four years ago they've taken a step back. they have learned from the 2016 bid. >> i think their continuing the radiation following the disaster is still an issue. quite often in these situations it's the perception rather than reality that's the problem. >> tokyo is facing two competitors. istanbul, turkey would be the first muslim city to hold the games. crews in madri
congress raises the debt ceiling. and government agencies are only funded until march unless congress gives them more money, they're essentially out of business. >> the fact is looking at all three of those, we have no idea what the hell is going to happen. >> reporter: the defense secretary is seriously worried. >> this fiscal uncertainty has become a very serious threat to our national security. >> reporter: and fears the pentagon will be forced to make budget cuts -- >> which is to hollow out the defense force of this nation. >> reporter: defense contractors in the washington area solve military problems -- >> ground penetrating radar provides an image into the ground that you can recognize very explosive hazards. >> reporter: this company in virginia makes the device but there's now a company hiring freeze with much new development on hold. >> we're totally in an uncertain place. >> reporter: steve charles is cofounder of this company in mclean. >> we actually are growing. we've expanded. we have continued to grow. but if there is a shutdown that would be an abrupt stop. >> reporter: co
meeting with the president when it comes to the debt ceiling thing we will give you the is power whether it is the 14th amendment or not to just raise this sucker yourself so you can find creative hoops around the debt ceiling mess without addressing the underlying spending that led to that mess. it does explain a lot. >> the arrogance of hai harry d today and other senate leaders when they said we will not allow the republicans to hold the country hostage by considered unbalanced approaches? didn't we just see a massively unbalanced approach after the president promised that it would be bald? the promises mean nothing, neil. it is time for the republicans to recognize the president is playing. >> neil: they didn't want to look like obstructionist. the reid democrats are telling them they got from the election more were vindicated, nor taxes not more spending cuts. i would agree to far to say the president got the support of americans to go ahead and hike taxes on the rich. i don't subscribe to that view or support that view. nevertheless he probably won and that basis but did not win on
with the momentum as well, with but as we get closer to the debt ceiling and the sequestration and everything else that washington brings, start to book some profit. >> that is going to do it for us here at5:30 p.m. "mad money" is up next. >> i'm jim cramer, welcome to my world. you need to get in the game. stearns are going to go out of business, and he's nuts, they are nuts, they know nothing. i always like to say there is a bull market somewhere. "mad money," you can't afford to miss it hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money" to cramerica. other people want to make friends. my job isn't on just to entertain, but to teach and educate. call me at 1-800-743-cnbc. after a ho-hum session, s & p finishing flat, nasdaq advancing, we're about to head into the one four most exciting, but least lucrative weeks of the year. thanks to the coming jumble of earnings. the reports are coming. you know the rules. and let's just try to learn. as i told you not that long ago. not impossible to make money until after we've seen earnings. i did five years worth of work on these weeks. i spent the last -- last three
with republicans over the debt ceiling and the budget negotiations and the sequestration, i mean he will be -- he will be a good ally for obama in those battles. i guess maybe that's what obama was look for? >> i think so. i think obama is clearly -- look, some kind of a long-term budget reduction deficit-reduction deal is clearly one of the things that obama wants as a legacy among others. but obama does not seem to be terribly concerned about the financial system. he gave an interview to "rolling stone" magazine last fall. he talked about a whole range of things with douglas brinkley, the historian. at one point, he said he was okay with what geithner had done. he didn't think it needed to be reinstituted. you get the sense between lew whose expertise does not include wall street and a president himself, you're going to get the status quo. >> bill: michael good for you to join us this morning. you can follow michael hirsch at nationaljournal.com. the "full court press," here we go on a friday. january 11. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." @Ñ >> she gets the comedians laughing... >>
moves closer to the debt ceiling deadline our next guest says the debt limit must be raised to avert what he calls how is that affecting businesses? a former member of the coins of economic advisors under president bush. matthew, thank you for joining us. simplely put, there is no option in your opinion we have to raise the debt ceiling. what happens if we don't? >> that is great question to which honestly no one knows the answer and i hope we don't find out the answer. it is not like the united states government is a small business that gets three bills a day and if cash flow is a little short one day they can just pay two ever the bills. millions of payments get made by the federal government every day and we just don't know, especially given the fragility of the economy and capital markets what will happen one day, one week, one month goes by where the u.s. government is defaulting on different obligations. ashley: countries defaulted before the, lost their aaa rating and managed to turn it around and recover abe able to borrow money from the markets. is this a wake-up call? god f
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the debt ceiling fight. and after that, you know, there were a lot of people who doubted that he could win. so for all those reasons this was in some ways more satisfying even than the last one. >> the romney people thought for a while that they would be able to say he's a nice guy but he's just not able to accomplish things, that was a team that-- theme that they tried out to do. >> yeah. >> the nice guy part got lost but they did make the other case. look, i have some sympathy for them. one of them, let me say after the campaign when you get a chance to know the people on the other side, and we've been in forums together and so on. they are coming out to my institute in february, it is, you know, i appreciate them for being in the arena, for caring deeply about the country, caring deeply about their candidate. but one of them said you know when we started, unemployment was at 10.2%. and you know, the case was a pretty easy to make. you know when we finished it was at 7.8% and things were clearly getting better. and it made our message more difficult. >> i know some of them. and they beli
averting a war over the debt ceiling may sound absurd, but it's being pushed by heavies. should president obama be willing to print a $1 trillion platinum coin if republicans try to force america into default? yes. absolutely. he will, after all, be faced with the choice between two alternatives. one that is silly but benign. the other that's equally slil, and both vial and disastrous. the decision should be obvious. how is such a thing possible? an obscure 1966 law, which according to legal scholars gives the treasury secretary the right to mint a coin in any denomination he likes. here now to discuss whether this is a serious proposal or something better left to cartoon characters, i am joined by msnbc's chris hayes, host of "up" for a little segment we like to call up -- now. >> nailed it. >> this is a ludicrous outlandish proposal, but maybe also -- >> i think the first thing is the context of it is that it's in the context of a ludicrous proposal which is to push the country into default, right? the republicans have done a really crafty job of essentially taking norms that used to gu
the debt ceiling. which raises the possibility of a government shutdown. >> this fiscal uncertainty has become a very serious threat to our national security. >> we actually are growing, we've expanded. we've continued to go through these months. but if there's a shutdown, that would be an abrupt stop. >> steve charles cofounded contractor the group and he says there would be layoffs if the government isn't in a position to re-up contracts or award new ones in the next few months. other defense companies instituted hiring freezes while they wait to see what happens. >>> its is 5:35. time for another your money report now. >> and jessica doyle is back with a look at the local economic future. >> that's right. that's right. well remember when it was easy to find a job and you could sell your house with relative ease? the hard part was actually bidding on a new house. it hasn't been like in a really long time. we've gotten used to the new normal economy that's slowly mugging along and really don't expect the new normal to go away anytime soon. a new forecast is out from the centers for reg
rate right now, this is the alternative. it's good, but be care. another debacle, debt ceiling coming up in a month or so, but right now, that's long term. liz: howard of counter fitzgerald in the last hour said that. he said this is the real debt ceiling. there's always something, isn't there, david? i mean, that's the point. where do you get the best deal? equities? you see that with the inflows to mutual funds. i worry when you see that that some people call the smart money the ones that were in during the time of fear and the slower money that retail money coming in now is that a sign of the top? >> that's called distribution usually. this is because all the money in mutual funds on the sidelines, more or less, a sign of a correction, but as far as we can see without knowing anything else, all the information we have to did on right now, you know, dips meant to be bought as far as we know. >> the markets are complacent about europe. used to be just a couple months ago when whenever, one way or the other, the markets jumped, the mission has been accomplished over that. too optimist
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